From hazel.smith at miltonvillage.org.uk Thu Oct 2 08:42:41 2008 From: hazel.smith at miltonvillage.org.uk (Hazel Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:42:41 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Energy salesmen? References: <29062973.309411222414975997.JavaMail.www@wwinf3724> <7AD97B565B8A4111B031CC43A620C446@scdc00002315> Message-ID: I've been told that Trading Standards (in partnership with SCDC) sets up the No Cold Calling zones - they supply signs, but will only do it if there is robust evidence of problems (eg targeting of vulnerable people). If anyone would like to suggest a road or an area of about 25 houses that might be considered I could put it forward for them to look at. We might get one or two of these areas in the village. There might be evidence to support this in the Parish Plan questionnaire results? Hazel > Did you know there are 25 No Cold Calling Zones in South Cambs? > They have to be fairly small areas that have suffered from deception, > predation etc in the past - most are sheltered housing areas etc not > general > housing areas. > Cold calling in general is not illegal, provided people are given a 7-day > 'cooling off' period and not expected to sign up for anything on the spot. > So the salesman wanting to gravel your drive 'at a cheap price because > he's > got some on the lorry at the moment' is illegal, and this has been a major > problem in the district. > Hazel From daperkins1 at ntlworld.com Sat Oct 4 19:29:01 2008 From: daperkins1 at ntlworld.com (Debbie Perkins) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 19:29:01 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] (no subject) Message-ID: <119025B39D19409C9515E1674D5A3FB1@world3267db255> Anyone know the reason for the police helicopter to be hovering around for so long tonight? Don't envy them in this weather very windy!!! From paul at the-hug.org Tue Oct 7 17:12:18 2008 From: paul at the-hug.org (Paul Oldham) Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:12:18 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Welcome to Milton Message-ID: <48EB8A62.2070100@the-hug.org> Here's a little web project I've been thinking about doing for a while for Milton (although it would work for any coherent community - Denis are you reading this?). We collectively write a single A4 page of information for new villagers. So it would be headed "Welcome to Milton" and would include things like: - when rubbish was collected - public transport options - a list of clubs and other activities in the village - where to eat and drink - the URL of the village web site - details of the two mailing lists Then we ensure it gets put through the letterbox of any new home owner in Milton. The web aspect of it is how this delivery would be made to happen. What we would do is keep the A4 page on the web server. Then when you, a milton-chat reader, saw someone move in near you you would go to the web site and use a web form to select your street and the house number of the new householder. The web site would then check if they had already had a leaflet delivered. If they have it would tell you the job had already been done. If not it would send you a copy of the leaflet for you to print off on your own printer and put through the new home owner's letterbox. The web site would note in its database that you'd done that so that no one else duplicates the work. So my questions are: 1. Do you think new villagers would welcome such a leaflet? 2. If I set up the web site are you all willing to help with leaflet printing/delivering (not that there's going to be a lot of that to do in the near future with the way the housing market is going!)? -- Paul From jody.chatterjee at ntlworld.com Tue Oct 7 23:02:15 2008 From: jody.chatterjee at ntlworld.com (Jody Chatterjee) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 23:02:15 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Welcome to Milton In-Reply-To: <48EB8A62.2070100@the-hug.org> References: <48EB8A62.2070100@the-hug.org> Message-ID: <00dd01c928c8$5cc45230$0201a8c0@CHATTERJEE01> Paul Sounds great; happy to help Jody [quoted text snipped - see http://the-hug.org/quoting.html] From milton at percysnoodle.com Wed Oct 8 13:34:24 2008 From: milton at percysnoodle.com (Simon Booth) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 13:34:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: [milton-chat] Welcome to Milton In-Reply-To: <48EB8A62.2070100@the-hug.org> References: <48EB8A62.2070100@the-hug.org> Message-ID: <51244.86.7.27.75.1223469264.squirrel@www.percysnoodle.com> A welcome sheet sounds like a good idea - I think one of the parish plan groups are putting together something similar; there's a meeting tonight at the Bowls Pavilion at 7:30 if you wanted to co-ordinate with them, or if anyone else wants to get involved. If people are printing the sheet off when new people arrive on their street - which sounds like a good way of organising it - then there's no need to restrict it to just new home-owners. As you say, there may not be a lot of them the way the housing market is going (or rather, the way it went years ago) so reaching out to us permanent tenants is important too. -- Simon From paul at the-hug.org Wed Oct 8 14:12:40 2008 From: paul at the-hug.org (Paul Oldham) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:12:40 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Welcome to Milton In-Reply-To: <51244.86.7.27.75.1223469264.squirrel@www.percysnoodle.com> References: <48EB8A62.2070100@the-hug.org> <51244.86.7.27.75.1223469264.squirrel@www.percysnoodle.com> Message-ID: <48ECB1C8.1050300@the-hug.org> On 08/10/08 13:34, Simon Booth wrote: > A welcome sheet sounds like a good idea - I think one of the parish plan > groups are putting together something similar; there's a meeting tonight > at the Bowls Pavilion at 7:30 if you wanted to co-ordinate with them, or > if anyone else wants to get involved. So I gather from some private emails I've had on this. I'm currently talking to them (and trying to avoid going to that meeting ;-)). > If people are printing the sheet off when new people arrive on their > street - which sounds like a good way of organising it - then there's no > need to restrict it to just new home-owners. As you say, there may not be > a lot of them the way the housing market is going (or rather, the way it > went years ago) so reaching out to us permanent tenants is important too. Yeah, sorry for the sloppy wording. I meant any new householder, not just home owners. I rather suspect tenants tend to stay in a house for less time so arguably should get more help to get involved with their new community. And over your side of the village there's a lot of tenants who this needs to reach. -- Paul From rda.998 at virgin.net Wed Oct 8 15:25:49 2008 From: rda.998 at virgin.net (Richard Davies) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:25:49 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Welcome to Milton References: <48EB8A62.2070100@the-hug.org> Message-ID: <005b01c92953$cc937510$e5700056@chadweasel> Paul Oldham wrote: > Here's a little web project I've been thinking about doing for a while... When moving to a new property, I find that striking-up a conversation with my new neighbours is a good way to introduce myself and acts as an excuse to find out about the local area and it's facilities. It is also a good way of establishing new relationships, possibly friendships and maybe some links with the local community. I guess that peaking out of the curtains when there's a new arrival in your street and then adding their details to a database so that a targeted mail-drop can be made, with no clearly identifiable originator, is an alternative. How about if instead of your suggestion, milton-chat readers were encouraged to say "Hello" to their new neighbours and give them details of the Milton village website and the various mailing lists. Regards, Richard From mary-ann at cantab.net Wed Oct 8 15:44:01 2008 From: mary-ann at cantab.net (Mary-Ann Johnson) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:44:01 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: [milton-chat] Welcome to Milton In-Reply-To: <005b01c92953$cc937510$e5700056@chadweasel> References: <48EB8A62.2070100@the-hug.org> <005b01c92953$cc937510$e5700056@chadweasel> Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Oct 2008, Richard Davies wrote: > How about if instead of your suggestion, milton-chat readers were encouraged > to say "Hello" to their new neighbours and give them details of the Milton > village website and the various mailing lists. Of course, there's nothing stopping you doing precisely that - print the A4 page out, go round, say "Hello", and give them the print-out (which could, of course, cover the village website and email lists!). M-A From clarke.brunt at viridis.net Tue Oct 14 11:52:21 2008 From: clarke.brunt at viridis.net (Clarke Brunt) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:52:21 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Soil/grit in the road - High Street/Cambridge Road Message-ID: <20081014105221.GA7584@brunt.org> Can't help noticing lots of soil and grit in the road on High Street / Cambridge Road over the last few days, especially as it soon accumulates at the sides, hence in the cycle lanes. Looks like it's coming from the lorries going to and fro from (I guess) Silver Acre, down the alley next to the Lion & Lamb. There are certainly major earth-moving activities going on down there. Would be nice if the lorries dropped a bit less of their load in the street. From tony at ajgledhill.com Tue Oct 14 12:21:25 2008 From: tony at ajgledhill.com (A.J. Gledhill) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:21:25 +0000 Subject: [milton-chat] Soil/grit in the road - High Street/Cambridge Road In-Reply-To: <20081014105221.GA7584@brunt.org> Message-ID: On 14/10/2008, "Clarke Brunt" wrote: >Can't help noticing lots of soil and grit in the road on High Street / >Cambridge Road over the last few days, especially as it soon accumulates at >the sides, hence in the cycle lanes. > Its not fun cycling around there with loose chippings etc, that road surface is very hard and unforgiving - as I know to my cost. >Looks like it's coming from the lorries going to and fro from (I guess) >Silver Acre, down the alley next to the Lion & Lamb. There are certainly >major earth-moving activities going on down there. Would be nice if the >lorries dropped a bit less of their load in the street. Yes - they seem to be doing some major "gardening" work at Silver Acre - they were busy on Saturday morning with JCB type earth moving equipment. I guess it must be a big "water feature" they're constructing - surely nothing that requires planning permission. Or is it the entrance to the replacement Corsham Computer Centre ;-) I wonder how many truckloads of material they've removed. From clarke.brunt at viridis.net Tue Oct 14 13:19:31 2008 From: clarke.brunt at viridis.net (Clarke Brunt) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:19:31 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Soil/grit in the road - High Street/Cambridge Road In-Reply-To: References: <20081014105221.GA7584@brunt.org> Message-ID: <20081014121931.GA10276@brunt.org> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:21:25AM +0000, A.J. Gledhill wrote: > Yes - they seem to be doing some major "gardening" work at Silver Acre - > they were busy on Saturday morning with JCB type earth moving equipment. > I guess it must be a big "water feature" they're constructing - surely > nothing > that requires planning permission. Or is it the entrance to the > replacement > Corsham Computer Centre ;-) > > I wonder how many truckloads of material they've removed. I'm not sure myself whether the material is coming or going - not actually having been around at the time. Perhaps they're filling in an existing "water-feature"? Anyway, as you say, all the debris in the road is annoying. Had to look up what "Corsham Computer Centre" is about :-) Perhaps Silver Acre has volunteered to supply Milton's quota of earth for widening the A14 (as mentioned in another message somewhere). From paul at the-hug.org Fri Oct 17 13:43:27 2008 From: paul at the-hug.org (Paul Oldham) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:43:27 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not Message-ID: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org> You'll have seen my mailing on milton-news today about the incinerator (and if not see ). For avoidance of doubt if you use the portal then you should select "support" and then, to be safe, explicitly say you are supporting the council's view that this should not be a preferred site. It's a bit counter-intuitive but that's the way it works - you're supporting the council's view, not supporting the land fill owner's proposal. -- Paul From john at jtresponse.co.uk Fri Oct 17 14:01:06 2008 From: john at jtresponse.co.uk (John Taylor) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:01:06 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not In-Reply-To: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org> References: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org> Message-ID: <48F88C92.8000007@jtresponse.co.uk> Paul Oldham wrote: > You'll have seen my mailing on milton-news today about the incinerator > (and if not see ). For > avoidance of doubt if you use the portal then you should select > "support" and then, to be safe, explicitly say you are supporting the > council's view that this should not be a preferred site. > Wow! They've done everything except hide it in the basement behind a door marked 'beware of the tiger'. I really can't see how people can be expected to navigate this portal thing. Its far too complicated for the average person to figure out. By the time everyone has figured out the instructions, and registered it will be far too late. And I guess its too late now to organise a petition :-( JohnT From milton at percysnoodle.com Fri Oct 17 14:12:04 2008 From: milton at percysnoodle.com (Simon Booth) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:12:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not In-Reply-To: <48F88C92.8000007@jtresponse.co.uk> References: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org> <48F88C92.8000007@jtresponse.co.uk> Message-ID: <60887.86.7.27.75.1224249124.squirrel@www.percysnoodle.com> On Fri, October 17, 2008 2:01 pm, John Taylor wrote: > I really can't see how people can be expected to navigate this portal > thing. Its far too complicated for the average person to figure out. > By the time everyone has figured out the instructions, and registered it > will be far too late. You can get to the right bit at http://tinyurl.com/5nunem - but you still have to go through the registration process, so that's probably not all that much help. -- Simon From paul at the-hug.org Fri Oct 17 14:20:29 2008 From: paul at the-hug.org (Paul Oldham) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:20:29 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not In-Reply-To: <48F88C92.8000007@jtresponse.co.uk> References: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org> <48F88C92.8000007@jtresponse.co.uk> Message-ID: <48F8911D.2010708@the-hug.org> On 17/10/08 14:01, John Taylor wrote: > Paul Oldham wrote: >> You'll have seen my mailing on milton-news today about the incinerator >> (and if not see ). For >> avoidance of doubt if you use the portal then you should select >> "support" and then, to be safe, explicitly say you are supporting the >> council's view that this should not be a preferred site. >> > Wow! > They've done everything except hide it in the basement behind a door > marked 'beware of the tiger'. The Hitchhiker's Guide analogy didn't escape me. What's odd about it is that the County officers want us to support them, but they're not making it easy. They didn't mention it to me at the roadshow and I don't believe they mentioned it to the parish councillors who went either, so how were we all meant to spot it. > I really can't see how people can be expected to navigate this portal thing. > Its far too complicated for the average person to figure out. > By the time everyone has figured out the instructions, and registered it > will be far too late. As I remarked to someone in email the portal is for their benefit, not ours. But I believe they're required to take any responses into consideration so simply emailing mwplan at cambridgeshire.gov.uk should work too. > And I guess its too late now to organise a petition :-( You could say that. To be honest in general petitions are of far less value than one might think: it's far too easy to get someone to sign a petition and in this case it would only count as one entry in the consultation. Pages and pages of individual responses from people has a lot more clout. Not that petitions don't have their uses mind you but it's horses for courses. -- Paul From jody.chatterjee at ntlworld.com Fri Oct 17 15:52:26 2008 From: jody.chatterjee at ntlworld.com (Jody Chatterjee) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:52:26 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not In-Reply-To: <48F8911D.2010708@the-hug.org> References: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org> <48F88C92.8000007@jtresponse.co.uk> <48F8911D.2010708@the-hug.org> Message-ID: <003801c93067$f9ff1b60$0201a8c0@CHATTERJEE01> Thanks for alerting me to this. I have responded....as you say not easy to via their site. I had to send an email to them in the end as their response form was unsatisfactory. [quoted text snipped - see http://the-hug.org/quoting.html] From jody.chatterjee at ntlworld.com Fri Oct 17 15:59:35 2008 From: jody.chatterjee at ntlworld.com (Jody Chatterjee) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:59:35 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not In-Reply-To: <48F8911D.2010708@the-hug.org> References: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org> <48F88C92.8000007@jtresponse.co.uk> <48F8911D.2010708@the-hug.org> Message-ID: <004301c93068$f953f1d0$0201a8c0@CHATTERJEE01> What is the Crane Industrial Estate site assessment Site 4-29 all about? [quoted text snipped - see http://the-hug.org/quoting.html] From david at chamberlin.org.uk Fri Oct 17 17:06:13 2008 From: david at chamberlin.org.uk (Rev David Chamberlin) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:06:13 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not In-Reply-To: <003801c93067$f9ff1b60$0201a8c0@CHATTERJEE01> References: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org> <48F88C92.8000007@jtresponse.co.uk> <48F8911D.2010708@the-hug.org> <003801c93067$f9ff1b60$0201a8c0@CHATTERJEE01> Message-ID: <48F8B7F5.70703@chamberlin.org.uk> Jody Chatterjee wrote: > Thanks for alerting me to this. I have responded....as you say not easy to > via their site. I had to send an email to them in the end as their response > form was unsatisfactory. > > Thanks to Paul for alerting us all to this - I managed to navigate the labyrinth of the Peterborough website and have submitted my comments in support of the Council's recommendation. One slight concern; the confirmation e-mail includes this section: "Your comment will be considered as soon as possible. You will be notified when your comment has been confirmed as processed (valid) or when it has been classed as inadmissible." I just hope they get on with it before 5pm on Monday! My 'home' village in Norfolk is in the middle of an incinerator fight, so this is quite a sensitive issue for me - we really don't want one of these on our doorstep :-( David. -- *Rev David Chamberlin* /Rector of Milton/ The Rectory, 24 Church Lane, Milton, Cambridge, CB24 6AB *t:* 01223 861511 :: *m:* 07761 630775 www.allsaintsmilton.org.uk All Saints Milton logo From paul at the-hug.org Fri Oct 17 18:10:51 2008 From: paul at the-hug.org (Paul Oldham) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:10:51 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not In-Reply-To: <004301c93068$f953f1d0$0201a8c0@CHATTERJEE01> References: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org> <48F88C92.8000007@jtresponse.co.uk> <48F8911D.2010708@the-hug.org> <004301c93068$f953f1d0$0201a8c0@CHATTERJEE01> Message-ID: <48F8C71B.6050507@the-hug.org> On 17/10/08 15:59, Jody Chatterjee wrote: > What is the Crane Industrial Estate site assessment Site 4-29 all about? There's a little scrap yard down there and it was being suggested as a Recycling Centre to replace Butt Lane in the last round of consultation (unlike the land fill site proposal which came later). I think the parish council commented on it in the last round. I know I did as an individual talking about the potential conflict between pedestrians and cyclists coming off the JC bridge and the additional car and truck movements that would result from a recycling centre there. You'll see that as with 4-81 the County are not recommending it but as they had comments off both the parish council and at least one villager in the last round it didn't seem so important to highlight as 4-81. Feel free to comment though. It certainly can't do any harm ... -- Paul From paul at the-hug.org Fri Oct 17 18:14:22 2008 From: paul at the-hug.org (Paul Oldham) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:14:22 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not In-Reply-To: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org> References: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org> Message-ID: <48F8C7EE.4000909@the-hug.org> On 17/10/08 13:43, Paul Oldham wrote: > You'll have seen my mailing on milton-news today about the incinerator > (and if not see ). [...] If you do want to comment in writing (using the MS/Word document I linked to in the article) rather than electronically then Michael Williamson has just emailed me to say: > If it would help, I am going into Shire Hall on Monday morning passing > through Milton at 09.30. If there were a convemient dropping off point for > anyone's written submissions, I would be happy to collect tham and take them > into Shire Hall. If that would suit you then I can act as a clearing house. Just get it to our house (4 Church Lane) by Sunday tea time so I can let Michael know in good time that he needs to pop in here. -- Paul From andi at raje.org.uk Sat Oct 18 07:05:44 2008 From: andi at raje.org.uk (Andi Everitt) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:05:44 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not In-Reply-To: <48F8B7F5.70703@chamberlin.org.uk> References: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org><48F88C92.8000007@jtresponse.co.uk> <48F8911D.2010708@the-hug.org><003801c93067$f9ff1b60$0201a8c0@CHATTERJEE01> <48F8B7F5.70703@chamberlin.org.uk> Message-ID: > One slight concern; the confirmation e-mail includes this section: > > "Your comment will be considered as soon as possible. You will be > notified when your comment has been confirmed as processed (valid) or > when it has been classed as inadmissible." > I hope I'm not missing something but currently there are no comments for SS4-81, or maybe the site just isn't revealing them as I see 'View Comments (0)' being greyed out and indicating no comments :S. So either (a) I don't have enough rights to see any comments made by others or (b) they're all sitting in some approval queue somewhere or (c) they're getting thrown away. I have to agree that the design of the web portal is terrible - some of the User Experience experts I work with would have a field day with this. The consultation is after all for our benefit so we should be able to use participate easily and not need a Computer Science degree and good guesswork to get anywhere. This whole episode seems rather reminiscent of stereotypical council/big corporation deliberately hiding the truth for the general public through obscure so called 'consultations' :(. Cheers, Andi From paul at the-hug.org Sat Oct 18 08:51:37 2008 From: paul at the-hug.org (Paul Oldham) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:51:37 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not In-Reply-To: References: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org><48F88C92.8000007@jtresponse.co.uk> <48F8911D.2010708@the-hug.org><003801c93067$f9ff1b60$0201a8c0@CHATTERJEE01> <48F8B7F5.70703@chamberlin.org.uk> Message-ID: <48F99589.3000501@the-hug.org> On 18/10/08 07:05, Andi Everitt wrote: > I hope I'm not missing something but currently there are no comments for > SS4-81, or maybe the site just isn't revealing them as I see 'View Comments > (0)' being greyed out and indicating no comments :S. So either (a) I don't > have enough rights to see any comments made by others or (b) they're all > sitting in some approval queue somewhere or (c) they're getting thrown away. I think it's probably (a). > > I have to agree that the design of the web portal is terrible - some of the > User Experience experts I work with would have a field day with this. The > consultation is after all for our benefit so we should be able to use > participate easily and not need a Computer Science degree and good guesswork > to get anywhere. This whole episode seems rather reminiscent of > stereotypical council/big corporation deliberately hiding the truth for the > general public through obscure so called 'consultations' :(. > Well our county councillor, Michael Williamson, reads this list so perhaps he could raise that with officers? Certainly everyone here and some private emails I've had too is sating much the same thing about the user interface for the portal - it really does suck. -- Paul From mijan at zetnet.co.uk Sat Oct 18 17:54:38 2008 From: mijan at zetnet.co.uk (Michael Williamson) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:54:38 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not In-Reply-To: <48F99589.3000501@the-hug.org> References: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org><48F88C92.8000007@jtresponse.co.uk> <48F8911D.2010708@the-hug.org><003801c93067$f9ff1b60$0201a8c0@CHATTERJEE01> <48F8B7F5.70703@chamberlin.org.uk> <48F99589.3000501@the-hug.org> Message-ID: <26A3067B6C2640ADB3A9D59BED880753@MiJanLaptop> Further to the comments about not being able to see consultation responses, I dn't seem to have a problem and I am not using any of my councillor priveleges. If you click on 'Who said what' at the top of the consultation page and then enter (for example) Milton HWRC you get lots of comments although none so far as I can see that are specifically about what we are all concerned about. This may be because any recent comments have to be moderated before they appear, but I don't actually know. I do agree about the rather clunky nature of the user interface. Blame Peterborough City Council :-) Michael Williamson County Councillor From bob at miltoncambridge.fsnet.co.uk Sun Oct 19 18:28:36 2008 From: bob at miltoncambridge.fsnet.co.uk (Bob) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:28:36 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not References: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org> Message-ID: <003901c93210$1f41a0b0$07984554@athlonxp> Paul Thank you for notifying everyone about this. In fact thank you for your continued dedication in informing the Milton community about relevant issues. I don't often respond or contribute to Milton Chat but do read the comments made by everyone. I have registered on the Council portal & made my comments known that I do not want to see or smell an incinerator down butt Lane. Back in 2003, my wife & I were involved with the Council (John Wilson at that time) in monitoring the smells we were getting at our home in the Sycamores from both the Tip (which was closer then) & the sewer. So we have first hand experience of smells from both directions (albeit only the Sewer at times now) & don't want to return to those days. Why can't there be some tie up with Donarbon along Ely road for an incinerator extension, if one is needed? Bye the way -Why is it that Milton seems to be the dumping ground for most things -Park & ride, Sewer, Tip, rat run for traffic? I wonder what else is coming in our direction Regards Bob Cox [quoted text snipped - see http://the-hug.org/quoting.html] From paul at the-hug.org Sun Oct 19 23:37:41 2008 From: paul at the-hug.org (Paul Oldham) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:37:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: [milton-chat] Support or Not In-Reply-To: <003901c93210$1f41a0b0$07984554@athlonxp> References: <48F8886F.8080000@the-hug.org> <003901c93210$1f41a0b0$07984554@athlonxp> Message-ID: <17311.192.168.2.100.1224455861.squirrel@home.the-hug.net> On Sun, October 19, 2008 18:28, Bob said: > Thank you for notifying everyone about this. > > In fact thank you for your continued dedication in informing the Milton > community about relevant issues. Ta. It's what I do. > Why can't there be some tie up with Donarbon along Ely road for an > incinerator extension, if one is needed? Funnily enough it looks like that is currently the officers' preferred option. See http://www.peterborough.gov.uk/pdf/planning/localplan/SS4080.pdf however you may remember that officers also favoured moving the sewage works to Honey Hill in the last round, something which has magically been dropped now, which is why we should take it for granted that it will end up there rather than Butt Lane. > Bye the way -Why is it that Milton seems to be the dumping ground for > most things -Park & ride, Sewer, Tip, rat run for traffic? Yup, a good question that ... -- Paul From clarke.brunt at viridis.net Thu Oct 23 09:58:40 2008 From: clarke.brunt at viridis.net (Clarke Brunt) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:58:40 +0100 Subject: [milton-chat] 'Fowl' sewer outside Lion & Lamb Message-ID: <20081023085840.GA27934@brunt.org> Looks like workmen were digging a hole in High St. outside the Lion & Lamb yesterday to fix what I'd taken just to be an occasional puddle, but maybe it was a mains water leak. Glad to see they carefully identified, and labelled in blue paint, the locations of the other services under the road, both 'GAS' and 'FOWL' :-) [Now flowing like water off a duck's back; expect it was just chicken-feed to them; etc...] From martincambridge at live.co.uk Tue Oct 28 12:20:28 2008 From: martincambridge at live.co.uk (martin cambridge) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:20:28 +0000 Subject: [milton-chat] newspapers Message-ID: We haven't had either of the two free weekly newspapers delivered for over a month and we are now actually beginning to miss them. Martin, Old School Lane. Get all your favourite content with the slick new MSN Toolbar - FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354027/direct/01/ From hmc at mole.bio.cam.ac.uk Tue Oct 28 12:42:13 2008 From: hmc at mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Heather Coleman) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:42:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [milton-chat] newspapers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's been erratic round Pearson Close area. The two weeks a week ago, we just got the Crier. Last week we just got the Weekly News. I agree they are useful (if just for Cambridge United and Histon match reports). One might presume an employee of the publisher, possibly reporter, is lurking on Milton-Chat (if nothing else to pick up any potential stories), so maybe this will get flagged as A Problem without someone having to ring up and complain? Heather On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, martin cambridge wrote: > > We haven't had either of the two free weekly newspapers delivered for over a month and we are now actually beginning to miss them. Martin, Old School Lane. > Get all your favourite content with the slick new MSN Toolbar - FREE > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354027/direct/01/ From paul at the-hug.org Tue Oct 28 13:29:39 2008 From: paul at the-hug.org (Paul Oldham) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:29:39 +0000 Subject: [milton-chat] newspapers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <490713C3.3030507@the-hug.org> On 28/10/08 12:20, martin cambridge wrote: > We haven't had either of the two free weekly newspapers delivered > for over a month and we are now actually beginning to miss them. Sad bunny ;-) It was been alleged over on the cam.misc news group that they're cutting back on Cambridge Crier's circulation for some reason. We certainly not seen it for a while in Church Lane but we are still getting Cambridge Weekly News. If you really need a fix then both are available online via their really quite remarkably usable Flash interface. Visit http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/cn_news_home/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=143372 and pick on the paper of your choice. -- Paul From ehb102 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 28 13:48:52 2008 From: ehb102 at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Cook) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:48:52 -0000 Subject: [milton-chat] newspapers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > We haven't had either of the two free weekly newspapers delivered for over a month and we are now actually beginning to miss them. Cambridge News has this number on their website - Home delivery queries: 0800 3895351. Call them because if the papers aren't getting through it affects their advertisers. Liz From Rob.Farrington at btopenworld.com Tue Oct 28 15:10:44 2008 From: Rob.Farrington at btopenworld.com (Rob Farrington) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:10:44 -0000 Subject: [milton-chat] newspapers References: Message-ID: <004701c9390f$705856a0$903d8351@ROBIN> Made me think that we had not received any for a few weeks so I telephoned Cambridge News. They don't deal with the delivery of these papers now, but gave me a telephone number - in LUTON!! - 01582 390355. I suggested that this might be the reason for non delivery and the lady said *quite probably*!! When I rang that number (twice) it went to voicemail for Extn 525. Have left a message and await return call - ha ha ha! Give it a try and see if you have more luck. Rob [quoted text snipped - see http://the-hug.org/quoting.html] From sallycat123 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 28 15:28:27 2008 From: sallycat123 at hotmail.com (sally summerfield) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:28:27 +0000 Subject: [milton-chat] newspapers In-Reply-To: <004701c9390f$705856a0$903d8351@ROBIN> References: <004701c9390f$705856a0$903d8351@ROBIN> Message-ID: Here in Willow Cres. we haven't had a 'Crier' for months and the weekly stopped coming several weeks ago. We actually had a phone call from someone somewhere asking us if were receiving the Crier but nothing has come of it despite giving a negative answer. Sally> -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> List info and how to unsubscribe from milton-chat at:> http://the-hug.net/lists/listinfo/milton-chat Discover Bird's Eye View now with Multimap from Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354026/direct/01/ From hmc at mole.bio.cam.ac.uk Wed Oct 29 09:35:34 2008 From: hmc at mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Heather Coleman) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:35:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [milton-chat] Another use for "Mrs Wilson's field"? In-Reply-To: <004701c9390f$705856a0$903d8351@ROBIN> References: <004701c9390f$705856a0$903d8351@ROBIN> Message-ID: A bit tongue in cheek this, but maybe it might make a good ice rink? It looked very inviting this morning anyway! Or is the still existing extensive flooding too deep to freeze in this cold snap? Well it can't be deep enough for anyone to drown if they try I suppose. Heather From anna.bradnam at btinternet.com Thu Oct 30 22:09:47 2008 From: anna.bradnam at btinternet.com (Anna Bradnam) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:09:47 -0000 Subject: [milton-chat] newspapers References: <004701c9390f$705856a0$903d8351@ROBIN> Message-ID: Come to think of it - I haven't received either of the freebies recently. Anna [quoted text snipped - see http://the-hug.org/quoting.html] From paul at the-hug.org Fri Oct 31 13:08:44 2008 From: paul at the-hug.org (Paul Oldham) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:08:44 +0000 Subject: [milton-chat] Thump, thump, thump, thump Message-ID: <490B035C.5020005@the-hug.org> Someone's having great fun pile driving or similar at the north end of the village. We're well into the second day of it now. I don't suppose anyone knows where and what they're up to? -- Paul From heather__richardson at hotmail.com Fri Oct 31 13:22:22 2008 From: heather__richardson at hotmail.com (heather__richardson at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:22:22 -0000 Subject: [milton-chat] Thump, thump, thump, thump In-Reply-To: <490B035C.5020005@the-hug.org> References: <490B035C.5020005@the-hug.org> Message-ID: Driving me quietly(?) round the bend! I think it might be coming from the works at the college. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Oldham" Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 1:08 PM To: "Milton Chat" Subject: [milton-chat] Thump, thump, thump, thump > Someone's having great fun pile driving or similar at the north end of > the village. We're well into the second day of it now. I don't suppose > anyone knows where and what they're up to? From milton-chat at mallardsystems.co.uk Fri Oct 31 13:54:28 2008 From: milton-chat at mallardsystems.co.uk (John Robson) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:54:28 -0000 Subject: [milton-chat] Thump, thump, thump, thump References: <490B035C.5020005@the-hug.org> Message-ID: <14D4FA42C6864D0DAE156ED6C8141481@shiraz> On Friday, October 31, 2008 1:08 PM, Paul Oldham wrote: > Someone's having great fun pile driving or similar at the > north end of the village. We're well into the second day > of it now. I don't suppose anyone knows where and what > they're up to? Must be unpleasantly loud where you are, as I can hear it distinctly at the southern end of the village! John// From mary-ann at cantab.net Fri Oct 31 13:57:12 2008 From: mary-ann at cantab.net (Mary-Ann Johnson) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:57:12 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [milton-chat] Thump, thump, thump, thump In-Reply-To: <14D4FA42C6864D0DAE156ED6C8141481@shiraz> References: <490B035C.5020005@the-hug.org> <14D4FA42C6864D0DAE156ED6C8141481@shiraz> Message-ID: On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, John Robson wrote: > On Friday, October 31, 2008 1:08 PM, Paul Oldham wrote: > >> Someone's having great fun pile driving or similar at the >> north end of the village. We're well into the second day >> of it now. I don't suppose anyone knows where and what >> they're up to? > > Must be unpleasantly loud where you are, as I can > hear it distinctly at the southern end of the village! Could it be coming from the end of Butt Lane? There were flood lights down there last night on the bridge - I couldn't see what they were actually doing, but my guess is it was something to do with the park & ride. M-A From gracem.richardson at talk21.com Fri Oct 31 14:27:47 2008 From: gracem.richardson at talk21.com (gracem.richardson at talk21.com) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:27:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [milton-chat] Thump, thump, thump, thump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <38039.8040.qm@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> It is the new building works at The College of West Anglia --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Mary-Ann Johnson wrote: From: Mary-Ann Johnson Subject: Re: [milton-chat] Thump, thump, thump, thump To: "Milton Chat" Date: Friday, 31 October, 2008, 1:57 PM On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, John Robson wrote: > On Friday, October 31, 2008 1:08 PM, Paul Oldham wrote: > >> Someone's having great fun pile driving or similar at the >> north end of the village. We're well into the second day >> of it now. I don't suppose anyone knows where and what >> they're up to? > > Must be unpleasantly loud where you are, as I can > hear it distinctly at the southern end of the village! Could it be coming from the end of Butt Lane? There were flood lights down there last night on the bridge - I couldn't see what they were actually doing, but my guess is it was something to do with the park & ride. M-A -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info and how to unsubscribe from milton-chat at: http://the-hug.net/lists/listinfo/milton-chat From ehb102 at hotmail.com Fri Oct 31 18:24:20 2008 From: ehb102 at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Cook) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:24:20 -0000 Subject: [milton-chat] Trick or treaters Message-ID: I love Halloween! I just had the cutest little trick or treater, about four years old dressed as a cat come to the door with her Mummy. She said "twick or tweat?" and it was sooooo sweet! If anyone has children who want to be allowed to trick or treat and they are only letting them go to houses taking part, I'm halfway down Butt Lane and my house has a flashing pumpkin on the door. Come quick before I eat all the sweeties! Once they're gone the pumpkin is switched off and it's all over... Liz From ehb102 at hotmail.com Fri Oct 31 19:20:29 2008 From: ehb102 at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Cook) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:20:29 -0000 Subject: [milton-chat] Trick or treaters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Once they're gone the pumpkin is switched off and it's all over... It's all over. Four bags of sweets! And only one less than perfectly polite group (boys at that difficult age). Liz From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Oct 16 11:42:00 2008 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:42:00 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: young workers living in small houses this hotel would mean that friends and relatives could actually come and visit and not have to find a bed miles away if they come at all. I don't understand the green-belt issue - it's a scrappy piece of land with a scaffolding yard on one side of the bridge and tesco on the other. I would have thought that it is exactly the sort of land to build on to avoid encroachment into countryside. If something is going to go on that piece of land then I actually think the hotel is quite attractive. This view suggests that the hotel would make the entrance to the village look a lot tidier. Far better than light industrial units. However, I know that there is opposition to development on 'Mrs Wilson's Field' and I'd be interested in some background as to what the problems are. Nat On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Paul Oldham wrote: > > On Mon, November 3, 2008 10:52, Clarke Brunt said: > >> Planning applicaiton: hotel opposite Tesco i.e. on the site sometimes >> known as "Mrs Wilson's Field" [...] "Erection of 120 bed hotel and >> restaurant, together with associated parking and infrastructure." > > Oh, well spotted. All the documents can be found here: > > http://scambs.jdi-consult.net/devcon/pa.php?option=case_files&paid=141588 > > I've only had a very quick look so far but "Additional Information - > Milton Teardrop VIA Report July 2008 3.2 MB" is as good a place to start > as any as it has elevations (page 14, looks pretty horrid) and a site plan > (page 13). > > Most interesting feature is that they've "solved" the vehicle access issue > with the site. They're proposing that vehicles enter and leave via an exit > part way up the road from the "Tesco" roundabout to the A14/A10 roundabout > dropping into the field via a 1:24 ramp. > > It looks like they may be intending to prevent right turns into the site, > so people entering would have to do a U turn at the Tesco roundabout but > that's not entirely clear from the plan. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Oct 16 11:42:00 2008 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:42:00 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: look even worse than the Hills Road one. Like you I spotted that the field is still owned by Mrs Wilson and Mrs Turner. Turnstone like Tesco before them only have an option to acquire it. Richard